tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629741739960540732.post7044674238161348777..comments2021-11-15T14:37:23.399-06:00Comments on Ancient Rhetorical Excavations K-State Digs: The Glory of War and KleosTim Steffyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550730604482809053noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629741739960540732.post-66737852997383456122009-09-09T00:13:07.055-05:002009-09-09T00:13:07.055-05:00I think this is a really interesting concept. Espe...I think this is a really interesting concept. Especially how Achilles and other warriors may have earned kudos, even several times, but kleos was given to a warrior in death. And how this concept, even though a practical and sometimes even a logical person would think otherwise to lose their life in battle, these warriors would fight till the death to either earn or protect their kleos/glory. <br /><br />One thing that stuck out in my mind in modern times, is how many soldiers fight in our current wars and lose their lives day after day for either their country or comrades, but yet not awarded or given the significance of this modern day kleos (Medal of Honor). And I was compelled to think of how much politics has played a major role in this abstract concept; moreover, how this concept is easily seen yet not given. Just a thought, :) and it is unfortunate that there is not more medals of honor given out to those soldiers who are still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.andrewg4ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08113626747841431925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629741739960540732.post-33130394350708500082009-09-08T14:07:05.035-05:002009-09-08T14:07:05.035-05:00Last night I was literally just about to write abo...Last night I was literally just about to write about this very concept. I checked the blog one last time and saw that you wrote about it, so . . . kudos to you :) <br /><br />Anyways, I enjoyed your discussion of the concept of glory. I think it relates nicely to nobility and honor, other concepts often discussed in the Iliad. I also enjoyed your connection to how we glorify, in a way, our soldiers today. At first I thought you were somewhat wrong on it as the War in Iraq has had such clear and strong opposition. I also had in mind Vietnam War protests and how denigrated soldiers from that conflict were. I think the Vietnam experience, however, reminded the country that there are things worth fighting for, and even though you may disagree with the conflict (as with today's Iraq war, in many cases), most people still attach a level of kleos to the soldiers themselves.Kavan Rognessnoreply@blogger.com